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but they are blocking chuck hagel. leon panetta has said his good-byes, had his going away ceremonies. but they are not letting him leave now. because they don't now how long republican senators are going to keep filibustering. nobody knows. we have no idea how long it will take. one of the reasons it seems not awesome to not have the leadership in place in our key national security jobs right now is because there is someone inside the u.s. government right now who is leaking things to the press to try to get us to go to war in syria. someone described as an obama administration official started a few weeks ago leaking information to the press that is clearly designed to make it seem like syria has crossed red lines that would require us to get involved in that war. the leaked information is designed to make it seem like syria is using chemical weapons. quote, the official warned if the u.s. does not react strongly to the use of chemical weapons in homes, assad may be emboldened. there is no real proof they're using ch
but they are blocking chuck hagel. leon panetta has said his good-byes, had his going away ceremonies. but they are not letting him leave now. because they don't now how long republican senators are going to keep filibustering. nobody knows. we have no idea how long it will take. one of the reasons it seems not awesome to not have the leadership in place in our key national security jobs right now is because there is someone inside the u.s. government right now who is leaking things to the...
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the one we may face within months. >> i know chuck hagel and know him well. i know he's going to sit down, and he's going to do exactly what peter said. he's going to come out with a plan. he's going to communicate with the soldiers in the field. he's going to remind them he was a sergeant, too, and he is going to implement the president's policy of shifting out of the wars we're engaged in now and sorting out other priorities. i think my estimate of this is that he's going to come out with a very, very good and confident looking strategy for the military and its priorities and how to responsibly handle what likely are to be sizable cuts. so he's going to do it, but people in the gop are saying that he's going to have to reinvent their relationship with them. i think it's the other way around. i grew up in oklahoma. my parents are in texas. these places have bases, defense contractors. now, hagel will be judicious. he's not going to hold anything against them, but their constituents are going to want -- can you talk to chuck hagel about our base? can you talk
the one we may face within months. >> i know chuck hagel and know him well. i know he's going to sit down, and he's going to do exactly what peter said. he's going to come out with a plan. he's going to communicate with the soldiers in the field. he's going to remind them he was a sergeant, too, and he is going to implement the president's policy of shifting out of the wars we're engaged in now and sorting out other priorities. i think my estimate of this is that he's going to come out...
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blocking chuck hagel's nomination is that somebody who had seen chuck hagel give a speech six years ago had later written the blog post about the speech in which he did not quote chuck hagel, but he asserted that chuck hagel had said awful things in the speech. no quotations of anything chuck hagel said there are certainly no transcripts or recordings of anything he said there is no direct attribution of anything that chuck hagel said at all. but lindsey graham and kelly ayotte wrote to chuck hageling is asking him to explain whether that blogger was right. chuck hagel amazingly responded to that with words be. the nature of the demand was unusual, right? especially for two senators who like to maintain themselves as very serious people on the issue of foreign policy. well, that whole incident followed up the blowup around the friends of hamas thing. the friends of hamas thing i can do far less justice that than comedy central can. behold stephen colbert. >> according to conservative news anger gator breitbart.com, hagel may have taken money from an organization called friends of ha
blocking chuck hagel's nomination is that somebody who had seen chuck hagel give a speech six years ago had later written the blog post about the speech in which he did not quote chuck hagel, but he asserted that chuck hagel had said awful things in the speech. no quotations of anything chuck hagel said there are certainly no transcripts or recordings of anything he said there is no direct attribution of anything that chuck hagel said at all. but lindsey graham and kelly ayotte wrote to chuck...
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do i care if chuck hagel is running the pentagon? as far as i can tell, no one has done much in congress to sort of sort that out. >> and the one thing that job, is a policymaker. that is not the person who decides whether we go to war but takes the orders from the white house about how to implement it. that is not the person who decides what our relationship is with any other foreign country. those issues belong in other jobs. that's what they made the whole hearing about. >> no, absolutely. and even their fixation on benghazi is located in state. they went after hillary clinton -- >> 100%. >> that has nothing to do with this job either. at the end of the day i started out says, confirm chuck hagel. he was an enlisted man, fought in vietnam. i'm saying, i don't know why i support him because it hasn't been about him at all. >> joy reed and chris hayes. thank you for joining me tonight. >>> coming up, wane lapierre, i'll be joined in rebuttal, by someone who is on the nra's enemy list. >>> and in the "rewrite tonight" if there was no
do i care if chuck hagel is running the pentagon? as far as i can tell, no one has done much in congress to sort of sort that out. >> and the one thing that job, is a policymaker. that is not the person who decides whether we go to war but takes the orders from the white house about how to implement it. that is not the person who decides what our relationship is with any other foreign country. those issues belong in other jobs. that's what they made the whole hearing about. >> no,...
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he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an -- would put together a budget like this. a speech about all his years in the senate through all the heated debates no one had ever called him that. another man might have taken a moment to check his temper, but mccain went on, i wouldn't call you that unless you really were that. >> you can disagree, but if you're disagreeable, then people don't forget that. >> ah, the arbiter of disagreeable. it is rich to hear that as the supposed criticism of chuck hagel coming from john mccain. but honestly, it's not just john mccain's personal hypocrisy here. this is a wash
he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an --...
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the chuck hagel nomination seemed like it was done. enough republicans had said they would support mr. hagel's nomination. enough republicans had agreed that they should not filibuster him. but he looked ready to be confirmed by the senate. but now it is not clear when that vote might happen, even though if the -- even though the outcome of that vote is a foregone conclusion. the senate armed services committee has now put off its vote on mr. hagel. and that's because 23 senate republicans are demanding that chuck hagel provide specific financial information about private corporations where he has served on the board. not information about the money he made but information about the corporations themselves. the senators are also demanding that chuck hagel give them copies of every speech he has made in the past five years, including notes you utilized for preparation or in giving the remarks, to which former senator hagel has responded, "your request for financial information regarding certain private corporate and non-profit entities
the chuck hagel nomination seemed like it was done. enough republicans had said they would support mr. hagel's nomination. enough republicans had agreed that they should not filibuster him. but he looked ready to be confirmed by the senate. but now it is not clear when that vote might happen, even though if the -- even though the outcome of that vote is a foregone conclusion. the senate armed services committee has now put off its vote on mr. hagel. and that's because 23 senate republicans are...
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and this was supposed to be the debut performance of chuck hagel on the world stage. and that is only the first impediment to hagel by this delay and this -- what they claim, the republicans claim is not a filibuster, but by any stretch of the imagination when you have a cloture vote and you get 58 votes and your nominee then cannot get a vote on the floor and they go into recess, that sort of smells luke a filibuster. >> have you heard anything about how people inside the defense department and even the state department, the other national security major agencies, how they're reacting tonight? is there any concern that this holdup is going to project weakness or otherwise be bad for the country? >> i think there's a lot of embarrassment and annoyance, anger. we do have leon panetta. we have ash carter, the deputy defense secretary. so there is leadership. you know, the other sort of incidental but not unimportant victim of all of this is also john brennan's nomination. whatever you think of it. that has also been held up until after the recess. for very good reasons,
and this was supposed to be the debut performance of chuck hagel on the world stage. and that is only the first impediment to hagel by this delay and this -- what they claim, the republicans claim is not a filibuster, but by any stretch of the imagination when you have a cloture vote and you get 58 votes and your nominee then cannot get a vote on the floor and they go into recess, that sort of smells luke a filibuster. >> have you heard anything about how people inside the defense...
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it's not just about chuck hagel. trying to get answers on benghazi means there is a different faction of republicans who are holding this up. they've also said they will do this regarding john brennan who would be the choice to lead the cia. he would be much more directly involved in the benghazi matter, but this is a way to try to pressure the administration to provide information that congress believes it has a right to have. now, the white house could certainly argue that what the president was doing or what time he went to bed, those sorts of questions, are sort of under an executive privilege. they don't have to tell them about that. it does have a political question. how engaged was the president once he was notified at 5:00 p.m. by secretary panetta that there was an unfolding assault happening in benghazi. those are things that came out through recent testimony through panetta, and the joint chiefs chair that had he had not spoken to the president again after initially informing hem. that created a new sort o
it's not just about chuck hagel. trying to get answers on benghazi means there is a different faction of republicans who are holding this up. they've also said they will do this regarding john brennan who would be the choice to lead the cia. he would be much more directly involved in the benghazi matter, but this is a way to try to pressure the administration to provide information that congress believes it has a right to have. now, the white house could certainly argue that what the president...
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which chuck hagel are we being asked to confirm? the one who shoots from the hip and means what he says? or the one who is now willing to say anything to be confirmed? we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and articulate that america is opposed to a nuclear iran and rejects a policy of containment. we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and be clear that the iranian government is not a legitimately constituted government. we need a secretary of defense with broad bipartisan support. sadly, that secretary is not chuck hagel. thank you, mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. mr. levin: mr. president, how much time do we have on our side and on the republican side. the presiding officer: the senator from michigan has 11 1/2 minutes remaining. the senator from oklahoma has 11 minutes. mr. levin: mr. president, i have 11 unanimous consent requests for committees to meet during today's session of the senate. they have been approved by both the majority and minority l
which chuck hagel are we being asked to confirm? the one who shoots from the hip and means what he says? or the one who is now willing to say anything to be confirmed? we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and articulate that america is opposed to a nuclear iran and rejects a policy of containment. we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and be clear that the iranian government is not a legitimately constituted government. we need a secretary of...
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chuck hagel wants no sanctions. chuck hagel on israel was one of-- i think one of three senators that refused to condemn actions of anti-semitism that were coming out of the middle east. i look at the merits. his performance was awful before the senate committee. he certainly did nothing to help himself. look at his policies. i mean, remember the question on containment. he talked about iranian containment of nuclear, he says we have no position on containment when actually the president said he wasn't in favor of containment and carl levin coming in-- >> gentlemen. >> i'll speak as loud as i can. we're here to give you a brief update on the status of the carnival triumph and arrival back in the port of mobile. the ship is approximately five miles away at this point and still about 6 knots of speed. our current estimates are that the ship will be alongside at the cruise terminal between 9:30 and 10:30 tonight. 9:30 and 10:30 tonight. as i talked about before for those who were here before, once the ship arrives, the
chuck hagel wants no sanctions. chuck hagel on israel was one of-- i think one of three senators that refused to condemn actions of anti-semitism that were coming out of the middle east. i look at the merits. his performance was awful before the senate committee. he certainly did nothing to help himself. look at his policies. i mean, remember the question on containment. he talked about iranian containment of nuclear, he says we have no position on containment when actually the president said...
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everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, there are a number of people who have made commitments that they will, in fact, vote for cloture when we return. so this is some kind of grandstanding that goes on. i'm confident he'll get the votes when we return, and he will take his place as secretary of state. but he is going to miss the nato conference next week, and it sends a signal to the rest of the world that maybe he doesn't have the full support of the american government, which is not a good place for our secretary of defense to be in. >> well, the jackals are in the streets tonight. thank you so much, senator claire mccaskill. and peter beinart, thank you for joining us as well. >>> coming up, the frantic rantings of the nra. citizen lapierre has gotten crazier. he says we need to buy guns, to arm up to protect ourselves from the marauding hispanic gangs. >>> remember the line, this one, from "brokeback mountain," i wish i knew how to quit you. well, republicans just can't quit their cartoon version of president
everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, there are a number of people who have made commitments that they will, in fact, vote for cloture when we return. so this is some kind of grandstanding that goes on. i'm confident he'll get the votes when we return, and he will take his place as secretary of state. but he is going to miss the nato conference next week, and it sends a signal to the rest of the world that maybe he doesn't have the full support of the...
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senate republicans have successfully blocked a vote on chuck hagel. republicans have thrown out so many different reasons for this it's hard to know why they're opposing the man becoming secretary of defense. it's hard to keep up with all their arguments. it's because hagel hasn't accounted for every penny he's made and every single word of every single speech he's ever given. it's because of what he said about israel and iran, maybe, but it's also because of the white house's response to benghazi, perhaps, something obviously, but that was nothing to do with chuck hagel who wasn't in the government at that time. well, today republican threats to take the unprecedented step of blocking a presidential cabinet appointment came to fruition, if you will. democrats moved forward with a procedural vote to end debate and pave the way for a final up and down vote. then it failed. it failed to get the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. so -- and this just happened. where does hagel's nomination go from here and what are the republicans really up to here
senate republicans have successfully blocked a vote on chuck hagel. republicans have thrown out so many different reasons for this it's hard to know why they're opposing the man becoming secretary of defense. it's hard to keep up with all their arguments. it's because hagel hasn't accounted for every penny he's made and every single word of every single speech he's ever given. it's because of what he said about israel and iran, maybe, but it's also because of the white house's response to...
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chuck hagel is not that guy. >> hang on with me. we got much more to do. >>> four brave americans, here's where we're going. fouf four brave americans killed in benghazi. but incredibly, yesterday's senate intelligence committee hearings revealed for the first time that president obama as awol. hillary clinton also awol during that horrible benghazi night. and the secretary of defense, he apparently did nothing. his hands were tied. even the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, he apparently did nothing. his hands were tied. i don't know the story. the stuff that leaked out from panetta's testimony yesterday was incredible. we will talk about it after this short break. i'm lorenzo. i work for 47 different companies. well, technically i work for one. that company, the united states postal service®, works for thousands of home businesses. because at usps.com®, you can pay, print and have your packages picked up for free. i can even drop off free boxes. i wear a lot of hats. well, technically i wear one. the u.s. postal service®,
chuck hagel is not that guy. >> hang on with me. we got much more to do. >>> four brave americans, here's where we're going. fouf four brave americans killed in benghazi. but incredibly, yesterday's senate intelligence committee hearings revealed for the first time that president obama as awol. hillary clinton also awol during that horrible benghazi night. and the secretary of defense, he apparently did nothing. his hands were tied. even the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff,...
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they expect chuck hagel will get confirmed in about 10 days. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel on the hill tonight. jerusalem is i shore about to get a boost from beautiful women. cutting a deal to return to atlantic city after years in vegas. it's a huge boost for jersey's tourism industry. coming months after that super storm sandy made a mess out of parts of the shore there. they are still working out the details. officials say the pageant will spend at least three years in ac. that planned merger of american airlines and u.s. airways is no longer planned. it's done. and it could wind up costing everybody who buys airline tickets. that's the concern from lawmakers on capitol hill. reaction from fliers coming up. plus, a stunner from katie couric. she says somebody has been making 911 phone calls from a phone line belonging to her late husband. what in the world as we approach the bottom of the hour and the top of the news as fox reports live tonight. as your life and career change, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust you
they expect chuck hagel will get confirmed in about 10 days. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel on the hill tonight. jerusalem is i shore about to get a boost from beautiful women. cutting a deal to return to atlantic city after years in vegas. it's a huge boost for jersey's tourism industry. coming months after that super storm sandy made a mess out of parts of the shore there. they are still working out the details. officials say the pageant will spend at least three years in ac. that...
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debris chuck hagel did a horrible job. i'm trying to figure out why these two men who praised him fairly recently in the cycle, why are they trashing him this hard? i think it's personal, in addition to his performance. >> all right, thank you so much for the interesting discussion this morning, our cnn cnn chief congressional for xondent dana bash, cnn contributor l.z. granderson and our boulevard republican strategist, thanks to all of you. >>> many passengers from the carnival "triumph" are already back in texas, arriving not by ship but by bus, after their nightmare cruise finally ends. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. we've got a lot of empty cans. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. we were out w
debris chuck hagel did a horrible job. i'm trying to figure out why these two men who praised him fairly recently in the cycle, why are they trashing him this hard? i think it's personal, in addition to his performance. >> all right, thank you so much for the interesting discussion this morning, our cnn cnn chief congressional for xondent dana bash, cnn contributor l.z. granderson and our boulevard republican strategist, thanks to all of you. >>> many passengers from the carnival...
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do you think chuck hagel can run the pentagon? >> my inclination has been to give the president the prerogative of deciding who's in his cabinet. i voted for john kerry although i don't agree with much he represents as far as a u.s. senator, but i think he's an honest person and i think the president has the right to decide. with regard to hagel, my first inclination was to give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm for auditing the pentagon. i think there is waste to be found. he's a soldier. served honor bly. i'm starting to have doubts and they are that if you going to run department of defense, you need to reveal if you've had financing from foreign groups. there's rumors about foreign groups that may have provided financing and i think he needs to reveal that. i am saying yes, i need more information before making a final decision. >> all right, but do you think john mccain is right to filibuster given your point, that you may not like who the president picks, but it is his prerogative whom he chooses to be in his cabinet. >> i t
do you think chuck hagel can run the pentagon? >> my inclination has been to give the president the prerogative of deciding who's in his cabinet. i voted for john kerry although i don't agree with much he represents as far as a u.s. senator, but i think he's an honest person and i think the president has the right to decide. with regard to hagel, my first inclination was to give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm for auditing the pentagon. i think there is waste to be found. he's a...
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i think this will highly impact -- i think chuck hagel should be confirmed. if he were a democrat -- is he actually a moderate conservative, but if he were a democrat and were no, ma'am made, would the republicans oppose him you should those circumstances because of his views? his views actually are quite consistent with those of president obama. we just got re-elected. i think that given a vote that he will be confirmed, and i think once confirmed he will serve many that capacity well. >> as a republican who has served in a democratic administration and precisely to have a bipartisan approach, which is what bill clinton wanted, and that was the model, the paradigm for what this president was trying to do with chuck hagel, but now how does he reach out to republicans who have clearly rejected him in large numbers and have been abusive some in the process? >> well, he will have to go to the hell and work with them, and they -- i assume they still are great patriots. even though they may disagree with chuck hagel that they don't want it this country to be compr
i think this will highly impact -- i think chuck hagel should be confirmed. if he were a democrat -- is he actually a moderate conservative, but if he were a democrat and were no, ma'am made, would the republicans oppose him you should those circumstances because of his views? his views actually are quite consistent with those of president obama. we just got re-elected. i think that given a vote that he will be confirmed, and i think once confirmed he will serve many that capacity well....
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mike emanuel on what is holding up chuck hagel. >> they successfully delayed chuck hagel's controversial nomination as secretary of defense. late today, procedural vote failed after senator john mccain had made the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your thoughts and your contributions. i think most all of us in public office feel that way. >> among questions, speeches like to one in june 13, 2008, before the arab american antidiscrimination committee that hagel did not disclose to armed services committee. earlier they blasted republicans for holding up hagel's nomination to lead the pentagon. >> it's shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation would a fully empowered secretary of defense. during all the things we have going on in the world, including a war. >> but panetta isn't leaving yet. and 60-vote requirement is not unusual, say republicans and rei
mike emanuel on what is holding up chuck hagel. >> they successfully delayed chuck hagel's controversial nomination as secretary of defense. late today, procedural vote failed after senator john mccain had made the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your...
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it was this really ham handed fake effort to look like liberals were opposing chuck hagel, but nobody believed them and they stayed anonymous and never came out of the closet and said who they were. so no opposition on the democratic side of the aisle. no opposition on the left, except for the fake thing. and that means that the republicans would have to do something historically unprecedentsed and truly radical if they are going to stop chuck hagel's nomination. filibusters a cabinet nominee? unprecedented in modern times. now, they might try it. but it will be a huge deal if they did. a huge enough deal that it might even finally prompt the democrats to change the filibuster rules. so it's not likely. now, if you are looking for a high profile national security obama second term nominee who really might have some interesting opposition, who really might have some opposition from the democratic side, if not even from the left, it's not chuck hagel. obviously, it's not john kerry. the guy you are looking for is the one who is up this week. on thursday of this week, president obama's n
it was this really ham handed fake effort to look like liberals were opposing chuck hagel, but nobody believed them and they stayed anonymous and never came out of the closet and said who they were. so no opposition on the democratic side of the aisle. no opposition on the left, except for the fake thing. and that means that the republicans would have to do something historically unprecedentsed and truly radical if they are going to stop chuck hagel's nomination. filibusters a cabinet nominee?...
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president obama and chuck hagel agree on so many thing. they're friends. >> right. >> they have a positive view about the same things in the world. that's why he's going at it. i think the president is sticking his neck out for this guy. they agree on things. >> and mccain, somebody pointed out today that mccain said the statement back when he was a republican as if hagel is no longer a republican because he dares to agree with the guy hiring him to be the defense chief. mccain did put it out there today. >> dwight eisenhower wasn't a republican either because he wasn't a hawk and kept us out of endo china and the middle east and took the heat because he was a guy who knew what was going on in the world. >> you're not sufficiently republican if you don't want to bomb iran. it was ironic today when john mccain put it out there and said basically, chuck hagel was mean to president bush, criticized the iraq war, his fellow members of the senate thought he was not sufficiently loyal republican. that's pretty rich coming from john mccain who ma
president obama and chuck hagel agree on so many thing. they're friends. >> right. >> they have a positive view about the same things in the world. that's why he's going at it. i think the president is sticking his neck out for this guy. they agree on things. >> and mccain, somebody pointed out today that mccain said the statement back when he was a republican as if hagel is no longer a republican because he dares to agree with the guy hiring him to be the defense chief....
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i love chuck hagel and all of that. he's made great sacrifices in the surface, but anyone who joins the group that says we want to have a nuclear free world sounds so good, but you don't lead by example. you don't say we're going to do away with tears because they may know china and russia and north korea and iran are all going to do away with the capabilities. so that's one of the objections i have two chuck hagel, his nomination. >> host: u.s.a. to the papers he would reach a filibuster against his nomination. it looks according to the "baltimore sun" that all circuits are democrats and two of your colleagues are also going to support his nomination. in in fact it can be 60. >> guest: let me correct your first spirit are not filibustering. i have to do is demand a 60-vote margin. i'm doing that. in fact, almost all controversial appointments. cabinet level appointments end up with a 60-vote margin. yeah, you may be right. they may be right there and if so you'll see people change their votes so they can be in the prev
i love chuck hagel and all of that. he's made great sacrifices in the surface, but anyone who joins the group that says we want to have a nuclear free world sounds so good, but you don't lead by example. you don't say we're going to do away with tears because they may know china and russia and north korea and iran are all going to do away with the capabilities. so that's one of the objections i have two chuck hagel, his nomination. >> host: u.s.a. to the papers he would reach a filibuster...